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Hi folks,


Please shed me some light on HT3 Quad core Phenom. What I know is Phenom 9500, 9550, 9600, 9650, etc. Googling did not find many info. TIA

B.R.
satimis

Advanced Micro Devices, AMD – Global Provider of Innovative Microprocessor, Graphics and Media Solutions
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amd's big boast of beating intel is over as they paid off the loyalty for SSE and SSE2 and phenom uses .45 flops or something. forgot the exact stats. its in amd site in bios and OS and software developer specs folder in docs.

Thanks for your advice.


I have been watching closely on the CPU market. I heard lot of inversed info on amd phenom. It is not easy to find this CPU on market.


I haven't heard Sun 8-core UltraSparc for sometimes ever since Sun announced marketing it as component in mid 2007. I'm interested on 8-core cpu for server. Have you had any info on 8-core UltraSparc? Sun is now dumping their 6-core cpu servers.


satimis

I can't wait to grab a phenom, I might just stick it out until the 2nd gen chips come out, especially off the mostly disappointing bench tests of the current releases. Maybe stick it out until DDR3 is more affordable hehe.

i will have to start by askin "pardon me, i didnt get what you are trying to say."
AFAIK? there is nothing called as 8-core. octal core is like well 2020 technology. if SUN gives octal arch CPU or any octal compatible device then i am sorry to admin i am a novice.
in 2006 i saw a video from AMD which boasted about AMD releasing its quad core aka phenom. but they and intel had to resolve one issue on SSE and SSE2 and intel was paid some amount by AMD for using its patented technology.
else you are trying to say a mobo chipset with 8 mono and/or dual and/or quad core processors? is it? oh well? if thats so? then try to grab this guy his name is *nanosync* "a very short tempered rude guy" and one of my excellent friend in efnet. he runs/admins the MIT's internet-II project and he manages 30 clusters where one of the sun's firebird which he manages has got 64 CPU's dual core and massive power. and RAM? hehe forget it, they got networked RAM. the central node is the most powerful i have heard of/seen back in 2005 and it even gave the 7 th fastest supercomputer a major fight.
then i spoke with some of glusterfs glusterfs is again super computing node file system with fiber lan and also shared RAM and also they use the hard drive at times as RAM.
try checking the real stats from real people. and make sure you are polite with them. i got stung with sting rays from then will million volts a couple of times for being arrogant and later pulled into the team.
oh by the way i was in touch with a few indian uCPU dev guys in AMD way back, and they said if they get though quad core? they will then go for hexacore (hexa=six and not hex which is 2 base 16).
ultra sparc? why ultrasparc? so you want to go for hardcore 64 bit technology straight from SUN? and i still trying to guess what were you trying to say? you want octal core CPU or you want a chipset where you may have the sockets for 8 CPU. both sounds similar but are way different.
(1x8 != 2x8 != 4x8 != 8x != (1x8x8 != 2x8x8 != 4x8x8 != 8x8x if you know set theory? the octal core aka 8 CPU core in one CPU chipset dye _IS HUGE_ and you may have computational power in gigaflops flops is the unit used to measure mathematical functions.
choice is yours. whether you want to go for SUN's 8-core or SUN's octalcore with SMP option.
hope i am clear.

we sail on the same boat!

I was mentioning UltraSparcT2 (8-core CPU) which Sun anounced sometime in mid 2007 to market it.

Intel already schedules to lauch 6-core CPU later2008/early2009 followed by 8-core CPU in 2010.

Nowadays the only true quad core CPU on the market is produced by Intel, not core2 dual. Its price is quite expensive. AMD has problem on Phenom unsolved therefore they have to disable one core making it 3 core CPU.

I'm NOT in a hurry to get a quad core CPU. I'm quite happy with AMD dual core CPU. I'll wait for 6/8 core CPU on the market. Unless the price of the true quad core CPU drops dramatically. Otherwise I'll keep my hands off it.


I ceased running 32 bits OS for sometimes eversince AMD marketed their 64bit CPU. All the PCs running here are of 64bit architecture.


satimis

Understanding Third-Generation AMD Opteron™ Processor Model Numbers
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Quad-Core AMD Processors - AMD Opteron™ & AMD Phenom™
SUN makes basic 64 bit and IIRC sun made 64 later 76 bit existed even before sun launched its native 64 bit. and i am readily reading the docs for amd's core based CPU's arch because i am a developer.
AMD Phenom™ Technical Documentation
SUN doesnt use SUN SPARC or SPARC64 or ULTRASPARC or ULTRASPARC64 for those platform you mentioned. SUN replaced the SPARC and SPARC64 with AMD64 for non-expensive affordable ranges. i am saying this because i have a friend in choopa.nl and there they use just SUN alone and all are SPARC and/or SPARC64 and if you have doubt? login to efnet and ask for jilles. thats an ISP from holland and they are hardcore SUN rack server users.
questions?
AMD Developer Central - Documentation - Developer Guides and Manuals
UltraSPARC T2 Processor - Features and Benefits
bounce the questions!

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UltraSPARC Processors Documentation
which processor which you mentioned here falls in octalcore? may i know that?
coming to processors? i would like to know how you measure the flops WRT to what? FPU or ALU and how you measure the mammoth signal processing? aka DSP.
waiting!
p.s. this is not a mortal combat nand nor a moral combat as who's is bigger. if you think octal core technology is viable? then AMD will push off the project.
reasons? people still use 586/686 and if they produce the R&D CPU in market to catch up the market brand which is multicore aka quadcore? they people will not buy quadcore and go straight for octal core. and one more reason? their quadcore will make no sale. same with XP and 2003, people didnt adopt 2003 but they stuck with XP.
and if you see the 1.4.1 section of the manual of CPU white papers and tech papers you can clearly see they measure it with
integer
floating point
load
and store
and in ASM its a major task.
if you can shed light which i meant by the one word "questions" and/or "comment" you are helping me than hurting my sentiments. if i can learn? i am ready to ditch my sentiments for 2 bucks and not 2 cents.

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